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11. November 2008
Weekly Status Report, W45/2008
Here's a summary of SeaMonkey/Mozilla-related work I've done in week 45/2008 (November 3 - 9, 2008):
The SeaMonkey project goals thread has taken lots of more or less off-topic turns, which is business as usual for newsgroups, but there was some interesting input as well and I've flagged a handful of posts that contain key statements already. We'll probably go and summarize those, discuss them in the Council and/or a status meeting and finally come up with a draft or even final vision statement for our project. If you still want your voice to be heard on this topic, please head over there and state your opinion in that thread!
- Typeaheadfind:
Besides reading the comments on my typeaheadfind blog post and the newsgroup thread, I also removed the last pieces of the old implementation from our tree while Neil is working on a new implementation based on toolkit, I'm testing the current work in progress and it seems to move along nicely. - Feed Reading:
After the mailnews feed reader landed (thanks IanN!) I've been looking into how to tie the lose ends up. Callek has promised to look into connecting browser feed detection with that feed reader for Alpha 2, so at least the connection is there before we implement full feed preview in the browser with a selection of feed handlers. The thing I looked into myself was displaying the originating website as a "header" for feed "messages", it's now shown and has a right-click context menu for copying the link location (more items to come) but the third part of click-opening the link in browser isn't in yet, I need some input from Thunderbird folks on that, as we share that XBL binding. - SeaMonkey Releases:
Some more release process stuff for SeaMonkey 1.1.13, but more this week, as it's still targeted Wednesday, November 12. - German L10n:
Lots of work to get German toolkit and SeaMonkey current, including a lot of obsolete string removals made for editor and suite - thanks a lot to sipaq and wladow for the work on the original string cleanups! - Various Discussions:
Test failures, download manager, parallel builds, 1.9.1 branching, Firefox 2 and Gecko 1.8.1 EOL plans, Tiger EOL plans, EV UI, new cert error page, etc.
The SeaMonkey project goals thread has taken lots of more or less off-topic turns, which is business as usual for newsgroups, but there was some interesting input as well and I've flagged a handful of posts that contain key statements already. We'll probably go and summarize those, discuss them in the Council and/or a status meeting and finally come up with a draft or even final vision statement for our project. If you still want your voice to be heard on this topic, please head over there and state your opinion in that thread!
Von KaiRo, um 21:18 | Tags: L10n, Mozilla, SeaMonkey, Status | 3 Kommentare | TrackBack: 0
Over 1000 Days Of SeaMonkey Downloads
When I just updated my local spreadsheet with current download data collected by the "bouncer" tool at download.mozilla.org, I noticed we now have over 1000 days since SeaMonkey 1.0 was released (1016 days since January 30, 2006, actually), so it might be interesting to publish some stats.
First, note that only our main download links from the website are tracked by the tool, i.e. the Windows full installer, Mac disk image and Linux full installer for en-US builds in the case of SeaMonkey 1.x, and the Windows installer, Mac disk image and Linux tar.bz2 for all available languages for SeaMonkey 2.x builds (even though this still means en-US only for 2.0a1, later releases will include locale builds built by us in bouncer).
This means any install of any other build, esp. localized ones, is not tracked, as well as direct downloads from FTP servers or installations delivered by Linux distributors, etc.
In total, most downloads stem from the 1.1.x series, which has taken over the "most recent stable" slot from 1.0.x after about a year and has been there since, while 2.0.x only has it's first alpha out currently, so no big surprises when comparing raw data of the release series.
While the download stats page linked from the first paragraph gives you raw download numbers and even a simple bar graph, the downloads per day are a number I personally am quite interested in. In my spreadsheet, I'm calculating the number of days a release was the most recent one (at least for its release series) and averaging its download over that timespan, which gives us interesting numbers about how well releases are doing.
Overall, in the 1016 days since SeaMonkey 1.0, we averaged about 4200 SeaMonkey downloads per day, 1.0.x had 1700 dl/day (2300 for 1.0-1.0.7, i.e. before 1.1 was released), 1.1.x averages at 5000 dl/day and alphas/betas at 320 downloads per day.
The uptake from 2300 to 5000 for 1.0.x vs. 1.1.x in the timespans where those release series were/are the most current stable releases is still quite impressive and shows that the first stable post-1.0 series was/is considered a better thing to adopt than the 1.0 series itself.
The fluctuations within the release series themselves show that every release starts off significantly higher in the first days and than averages out lower over time, the shorter a release is out there, the higher its download average tends to be.
SeaMonkey 2.0a1 currently is at about 300 dl/day, which is higher than 1.1a (which had 230), but it's only been out for 38 days (1.1a had 70). Still, that's 300 people every day who try out our first alpha of the next generation, and we get very encouraging and positive feedback from that testing.
Fun fact: Looks like we had the 11,111th download of this Alpha 1 today, at 11/11 of this year - a quite large number of ones at once, actually
While I'm at it, from daily pings to AMO for the add-ons blocklist (so we can deactivate add-ons for users if identify one containing malware or causing certain app versions to crash or such) we can now get rough statistics of daily users of 2.x versions - and we constantly have about 800-1000 users every day on the *pre versions (telling from the update channels, almost 1/3 on self-built ones, the rest on nightlies), which is quite good for on-the-edge development builds of a niche product!
On October 19, when I got the last statistics update on those blocklist builds out of MoCo (I don't have direct access), we had about as many daily users on 2.0a1 as on 2.0a2pre, about 750 for each, which is a good uptake for two weeks after the release of that first alpha as well.
Overall, I think we can be satisfied with how well we were doing in our first 1000 days of having stable releases out the door, but there's still enough room for doing even better!
First, note that only our main download links from the website are tracked by the tool, i.e. the Windows full installer, Mac disk image and Linux full installer for en-US builds in the case of SeaMonkey 1.x, and the Windows installer, Mac disk image and Linux tar.bz2 for all available languages for SeaMonkey 2.x builds (even though this still means en-US only for 2.0a1, later releases will include locale builds built by us in bouncer).
This means any install of any other build, esp. localized ones, is not tracked, as well as direct downloads from FTP servers or installations delivered by Linux distributors, etc.
In total, most downloads stem from the 1.1.x series, which has taken over the "most recent stable" slot from 1.0.x after about a year and has been there since, while 2.0.x only has it's first alpha out currently, so no big surprises when comparing raw data of the release series.
While the download stats page linked from the first paragraph gives you raw download numbers and even a simple bar graph, the downloads per day are a number I personally am quite interested in. In my spreadsheet, I'm calculating the number of days a release was the most recent one (at least for its release series) and averaging its download over that timespan, which gives us interesting numbers about how well releases are doing.
Overall, in the 1016 days since SeaMonkey 1.0, we averaged about 4200 SeaMonkey downloads per day, 1.0.x had 1700 dl/day (2300 for 1.0-1.0.7, i.e. before 1.1 was released), 1.1.x averages at 5000 dl/day and alphas/betas at 320 downloads per day.
The uptake from 2300 to 5000 for 1.0.x vs. 1.1.x in the timespans where those release series were/are the most current stable releases is still quite impressive and shows that the first stable post-1.0 series was/is considered a better thing to adopt than the 1.0 series itself.
The fluctuations within the release series themselves show that every release starts off significantly higher in the first days and than averages out lower over time, the shorter a release is out there, the higher its download average tends to be.
SeaMonkey 2.0a1 currently is at about 300 dl/day, which is higher than 1.1a (which had 230), but it's only been out for 38 days (1.1a had 70). Still, that's 300 people every day who try out our first alpha of the next generation, and we get very encouraging and positive feedback from that testing.
Fun fact: Looks like we had the 11,111th download of this Alpha 1 today, at 11/11 of this year - a quite large number of ones at once, actually
While I'm at it, from daily pings to AMO for the add-ons blocklist (so we can deactivate add-ons for users if identify one containing malware or causing certain app versions to crash or such) we can now get rough statistics of daily users of 2.x versions - and we constantly have about 800-1000 users every day on the *pre versions (telling from the update channels, almost 1/3 on self-built ones, the rest on nightlies), which is quite good for on-the-edge development builds of a niche product!
On October 19, when I got the last statistics update on those blocklist builds out of MoCo (I don't have direct access), we had about as many daily users on 2.0a1 as on 2.0a2pre, about 750 for each, which is a good uptake for two weeks after the release of that first alpha as well.
Overall, I think we can be satisfied with how well we were doing in our first 1000 days of having stable releases out the door, but there's still enough room for doing even better!
Von KaiRo, um 16:13 | Tags: Mozilla, SeaMonkey, stats | keine Kommentare | TrackBack: 2