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KaiRo

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Data Manager: Better View, More Control

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2010-05-27 23:46

InvisibleSmiley

from Frankfurt, Germany

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I think this is brilliant idea! We currently have too many different windows for configuration of similar things. Your approach has the benefit of providing a coherent interface to all kinds of data, and it is extensible (optimally both with respect to future in-product and custom add-on additions). We can still have multiple entry points (e.g. for Cookies and Passwords from the Tools menu, but also from e.g. Page Info) but the result will always show up in the same manner.
2010-05-28 01:02

Tiago

from Portugal

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SeaMonkey? Wasn't it about not changing?
I thought SeaMonkey was (also) about keeping the user interface consistent between versions, and not go in oh so wild oh so confusing wheel of change that Firefox's interface is (lol)...
2010-05-28 01:17

Keith

from the US

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What would really make sense to me would be to have a widget for this type of thing. Really, cookies, popup settings, etc. are conceptually similar to history. Having a single widget for this sort of thing (with sorting, grouping, searching, etc.) would be ideal for all Mozilla projects (official and unofficial), but of course, that would require hacking toolkit/XUL rendering a bit, and from what I gather, that's really the conservative part of the project.
2010-05-28 05:32

KaiRo

Webmaster

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Keith, I'm not sure I understand your idea there, what exactly do you think this should look? "widget" can mean any number of things, but I'm very interested in other ideas how to solve this.
2010-05-28 12:30

Jota.Ce

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One idea...

Better than having 4 sub-tabs for passwords, cookies,... i'd prefer a tree structure (just like bookmarks manager). Those 4 tabs should be 4 branches folded with a +. You could delete all cookies just selecting "Cookies" branch and hitting on DEL.

And that way you don't have to change between tabs to look for different types of private data, you can unfold them all and see all at the same time.

It would be *VERY* nice to have an extra sub-tab (or branch) to see history entries that are related to that domain. I don't like to store thousands of entries for one domain... and anyway i'd like to delete some, just to avoid SM offering me those entries until they expire due to not using them.

And.. finally. All those data... bookmarks, history, private data, add-ons... could be merged in a giant All-in-one ultramanager xD
2010-05-29 13:44

Jota.Ce

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Oh, i forgot to mention... i don't things like this in cookie manager:

- Entries from google.com
- Entries from www.google.com

For sure there should be reasons to do that... but i don't like searching for dual domains to remove some shit from sites.

So i ended only accepting session cookies for all sites, but the ones i like to be signed in permanently.

It woudl be nice it there are NOT dual domains (just merging them) in this new manager (and it would be nice if cookie manager is modified to merge results).

Thanks for all your work. We *believe* in SeaMonkey !
2010-05-29 13:49

KaiRo

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Jota.Ce:
For one thing, I had the thought of possibly extending this for bookmarks, history, etc. in the future. Also, not-too-well-known things like local storage might be an idea.

The tree thing could be something to think about, if we can make it discoverable well enough for people. The tabs inside a tab are surely not the most ideal way to represent things, but they're simple enough to work with for the moment.

Also, I actually have "forget everything from that domain" in mind, which in my current idea would display an extra tab that lets you select what info you want to delete and asks for confirmation that way.

For domains, yes, this list only has "effective top-level domains" like "google.com" or "bar.co.uk" and displays everything stored for that and its subdomains in that entry.
2010-05-29 14:52

Tempest

from US

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Will this allow one to modify permissions like image, popup, object, document, etc. ? Basically this stuff - http://kb.mozillazine.org/Hostperm.1 - of course this is now in permissions.sqlite
2010-06-02 02:30

KaiRo

Webmaster

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Tempest:
Yes, managing of those permissions, which is currently spread across multiple windows, will be integrated into this.
2010-06-02 13:31

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