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Entry written by KaiRo and posted on May 8th, 2009 01:49 | Tags: Star Trek | 6 comments | TrackBack
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Ps: I don't NECESSARILY hate you
To the stuff you alluded to about continuity: You have to remember that 25 years of history has been altered. Although it is unlikely that Spock would have known Romulans were similar in ancestry, it certainly is possible the Federation/Vulcans had some contact with them in the 25 years of history that was changed.
wasn't it made clear in enterprise that romulans and vulcans had common ancestry? I'm pretty sure it was but am not 100%
I've to start saying that you made a excellent commentary, several points of which i hadn't paid attention to till i read this.
- Indeed as i believe Romulans hadn't been seen till about the time the movie plays, although, as another commenter said, there's 25 years of non canon things happening, maybe in that universe they have been seen already.
" * The Vulcan thing is going to be somewhat troublesome for this new Star Trek universe, I guess - but it makes the storyline told here believable. IMHO, it's OK, but still troublesome."
- I knew that Vulcan wasn't destroyed in the cannon !!! Didn't liked it, but as you said makes the movie believable
" * The Uhura-Spock stuff is so unnecessary and completely unneeded for the story. If I were the producer, I would have cut it out just because it doesn't make any real sense for what's being told here."
- Don't think its unnecessary, it plays a very important part: This Spock acknowledges his emotions (despite controlling then as our old Spock would) much easier than old Spock(Something that Nimoy's Spock knows, agrees, and appears to stimulate), what, i imagine, constitutes the "new vulcan" race
"; * An Orion girl apparently being in Starfleet Academy doesn't make much sense for the part of the canon we still need to assume."
- Miscegenation?, it was a point in which Gene Roddenberry really believed.
"... Quinto's Spock has many strong performances but some weak spots - especially where he meets his older self, Nimoy - of course - really is Spock, nobody can doubt that, though his performance starts off slightly weak."
- I don't see as many weak spots (although i admit he was real showing too much emotion at times) in light of what i said about the "new Vulcan" race, i think it was a movie objective.
" * Saldana's Uhura is really, really great, and towards the end feels much more like a bridge officer than that character ever did."
- 100,000% agreed, the original Uhura never really made anything. Despite being highly regarded by the other crewmates. Or maybe TOS simply never correctly appreciated the difficulty of interstellar translation, don't know...
" * The "red matter" is even bad in terms of usual Science Fiction. Come on, something without scientific background and with an unimaginative name as well? At least Spock should have a technobabble name for it, even if Nero might not.
* And the whole thing of fleeing from a black hole is scientifically weak, as well as not explaining why suddenly a mere black hole is a space/time portal."
- Its the death of Science in science-fiction
"... "don't throw away your life, take what you have, use it to your best abilities and you can achieve great things" - and that, I have to say, is truly Star Trek."
Great movie. Only two minor quibbles which I have to say.
1. I don't care what alternate timeline/universe it is, Kirk and two Spocks would fold, bend, spindle, and mutilate the timeline as they saw fit to save Vulcan. The older Spock wouldn't just go off to the new colony and start hoeing spuds ( or whatever veggie Vulcan colonists hoe.)
2. I don't care how awesomely heroic and supercalifragilisticexpialidocious you are, you don't get handed a Captaincy straight out of the academy in any service.